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Morrissey interviewed by Len Brown
Vox, November, 1990

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MORRISSEY
COULD PROBABLY HAVE DONE WITHOUT THE LAST YEAR, AND THERE'S BEEN A FEW
NONE TOO KIND HACKS AND HACKETTES WHO SAY WE COULD DO WITHOUT HIM. THE
MUCH MORE SOLICITOUS LEN BROWN SHARES A CUP OF ROSY WITH THE HERO OF
BED-SIT LAND WHO IS QUITE HAPPY NOT BEING PART OF THE MANCY CROWD, NOT
PLAYING WITH JOHNNY MARR AND NOT HAVING A WHIPPET.
PICTURES BY KEVIN CUMMINS AND PENNIE SMITH. |
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When I first met Morrissey, some 30 months ago the selected venue was the scene of Oscar Wilde's arrest at Chelsea's Cadogan Hotel. Our second discussion, in late '88, centred on the desecration or decoration by Smiths' fans of Oscar's tomb in that Parisian boneyard Pere Lachaise. So I was naturally astonished, having been summoned by Terrace Stomp (sic) himself to Reading, not to find him tethered to Wilde's slop-bucket in cell C33 of Reading Gaol. Instead, we tracked him down to the sleepy, rural Tudor pile that is Hook End Manor. This former stately home was domicile to flying fingers Alvin Lee, ex-lead axeman with Ten Years After, later Dave Gilmour, and is now a classically English retreat-cum-studio run by Morrissey's latest co-writing conspirators Winstanley and Langer of Madness/Costello infamy. "Originally it was a home for monks," explains Morrissey, as if 'monastery' was a dirty word. Hold the gossip columns... "Mozz in monkey biz at monastery!" "Since I've been here several people have had certain visitations at night time, including me..." "... It happened for each person at ten past four in the morning," he continues, in that goose-soft Percy Sugden-style brogue. "It felt like a hand on your chest, as if you were being woken or stirred. The conclusion I've come to is that it's the ghost of some misguided monk going round waking people up for prayers." You can tell by the way that Morrissey moves that he's relaxed here. It's a Draughtsman's Contract type of place and he's recording his follow-up album to 'Viva Hate'. Gathered around him, in his ongoing search for musical soulmates to replace Johnny Marr, are characters such as Mark Nevin from Fairground Attraction and Bedders from Madness. You can almost hear the creative juices flowing. But working at Hook End means that the Mozz had to kiss goodbye to his old haunt, The Wool Hall in Bath, scene of both 'Strangeways, Here We Come' and 'Viva Hate'. "That was enough," says Morrissey, pouring the Darjeeling, "it was time to try a different bed and the one here's quite comfortable." Despite the monk? "Because of the monk!" |
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BONA CONTENTION "I'm deeply apprehensive. I know you're fully aware of the current climate that surrounds me in the press. It almost means that flattering articles can no longer be written about me. But, while I admit that 'Ouija Board Ouija Board' wasn't 'Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep', I do think the backlash has been slightly overdone." Morrissey doesn't like doing interviews - "I'd rather just disappear into the woods and stay there" - particularly when circumstances demand that he's defensive. The last 12 months, by his own high standards, have been a mix of the unremarkable and unavoidable, with perhaps only the strange beauty of 'November Spawned A Monster' to remind us of his uniqueness. Things seemed to reach a post-Smiths low when, following what he describes as a "condemning, disgraceful" interview in The Face - "I could tell you things about Nick Kent that would take the frizz out of your Afro!" - he seemed to scrap his scheduled 'Bona Drag' studio album overnight. Instead, EMI are now ready to launch a rather obvious compilation LP, also called 'Bona Drag', comprising of B-Sides and singles from 'Suedehead' through to 'Piccadilly Palare'. Steven Patrick, defend thyself. "People will view it suspiciously in England but not in the rest of the world where all those funny little singles were never released. It was initially for the rest of the world, but EMI were determined to release it here." Not that it's a bad collection of songs, just rather unnecessary. Why include 'Viva Hate' tracks like 'Suedehead' and 'Everyday Is Like Sunday' once again? "Why live? Why dress yourself? Why shave?" he chuckles quietly. "I have no answer except to say that if 'Bona Drag' and 'Piccadilly Palare' had not been released the only visible sign of my personal existence this year would have been 'November Spawned A Monster'. So they'll remind people that I'm a faintly living person although I'm not sure about that myself. Let them mock, I don't mind." It's probably because your output's been so prolific over the years that this recent lull seemed more like a definite crack in your career. "But if you're examining other artists, they disappear for two or three years, to tour Bangkok or live in large houses. Throughout the '80s it was so constant - then for a slight second it looked as if there was a lull - let's face it, there was a very attractive lull - so people started saying 'ah-ha, the acrobat falls'... "And yet, if I was turning them out like a cracker factory people would say, 'Why doesn't he go away? Why doesn't he have a slight rest? Pass me that bread knife!'" It's probably because you seem to lead such a disciplined life. People probably think, 'Old Morrissey, all that time on his own, he ought to be able to knock out a couple of albums a year. He hasn't got a drug problem, he hasn't got a drink problem.' "Life would be so colourful if only I had a drink problem." |
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"No,
I haven't found religion, no, I haven't found love. I haven't even got
a whippet!"
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Morrissey
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EASY MEAT Many critics, having cremated The Smiths, initially decided that the band's components couldn't succeed apart. Morrissey's single life has clearly upset those arguments although he's always struggled to achieve a wider audience. Every single charges high into the charts before rapidly plunging downwards like a stockbroker from a city high-rise. 'Piccadilly Palare' should follow suit. "It's not a particularly strong record," admits Morrissey candidly. "It's not overwhelming, the subject is even slightly dated. 'Piccadilly Palare', which will receive blanket horrendous reviews, is a song about male prostitution. But I'm not running around in the street saying 'Look at me singing about male prostitution, isn't that incredibly unique!' I don't want plaudits for examining a new subject, but I will say that even coming across a pop record with a reasonably unique situation is in itself interesting." It seems EMI don't have particularly high hopes for 'Piccadilly Palare' either, according to Morrissey. There will be no video - a temporary end to his successful association with director Tim Broad - and Morrissey himself is pretty confident it won't be Top Five. "People often say to me at bus stops, 'Why are you releasing this record?' But I don't mind that 'Ouija Board Ouija Board' never received an Ivor Novello award. I never believed that sitting on top of the pop arena was a nice place to be." But are you now going out of your way to be less successful? "No, but I do hear certain opinions. I think there's always a danger in trying to give an audience what it wants. I think it's more interesting to give an audience something it might not want." This attitude must sound somewhat painful to the bigwigs of EMI. For here's a man who many feel should go all the way - hell a PSB-style Elvis crooner would do it - yet who's defiantly anti-careerist and, today at least, against success. So are you just happy to hold onto the following you already have? "Yes I am, even if it decreases I won't mind that much." There seems to be an edge of revenge about Morrissey's current stance, an affirmation of his staunch individuality against the ever-tightening business demands of being a 'pop' star. "I can only control it by not being approachable, by not being at Stringfellows, by not sitting on somebody's desk at EMI. I came to the conclusion that if, when these sessions are finished, I took the label of the master tapes and put Tina Turner's name on them and sent them to EMI, the results would be staggering. Television advertising, all those things that, if they really happened, I'd hate every minute of it." Your wardrobe would be radically different too. "Not necessarily!" If Morrissey needed any reminder of the downside of the music business he got it earlier this year when the 'Fifth Smith', 'Queen Is Dead' era (and Wolverhampton reunion) guitarist Craig Gannon successfully sued Morrissey. "Yes, he did win his case against The Smiths which was heart-breaking, deeply sad, and an outrage of public justice. His lawyer, my lawyer, everybody involved knew he didn't have a leg to stand on yet, through some perversion of justice, he walked away with £42,000. "It made me very unhappy because it seemed a perfect example of how nauseous this business can become. And it reminds me that, like it or not, however much I kick, however much I back-pedal, that I am finally a part of this business. "It's the thing that most wears me down but my opinion is that Craig Gannon didn't really win because... he's still Craig Gannon. Ha ha!" When the laughter stops and his attack of bitterness subsides, I half mention that such cruelty contradicts the spirit of one of Morrissey's great one liners: "It takes guts to be gentle and kind"? "Oh it does but you know I've never been cruel unnecessarily," he chortles. Minutes later, referring to his former friend and hairdresser Andrew Berry, I suggest that Berry takes credit for that floppy-haired Happy Mondays look. "Yes, but he probably takes credit for the Zeebrugge Disaster. And rightly so!" |
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"I
think a lot of people are getting away with murder... there are no real
honest faces or even minor celebrities."
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Morrissey
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This interview
was originally published in the November, 1990 issue of Vox.
Reprinted without permission for personal use only.