
Morrissey Interviewed By Jaan Uhelszki
SOMA Magazine, December, 2000
"THE SMITHS WERE A GROUP
AND A SOUND AND A LOOK AND A MEANING THAT HAD NO TIES TO ANYTHING AT ALL
THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY HAPPENED."
Once, he was the bespectacled singer of archetypal British guitar band The Smiths; now he's living in Los Angeles and shopping for a label. Morrissey ruminates on his former groups legacy, coming to terms with the past, and selling out the Hollywood Bowl faster than anyone else.
Can we talk about
what you're doing now in terms of your career?
That will
be a very brief conversation. I'm looking for a deal. I don't have a deal,
and I haven't had a deal since Mercury collapsed two-and-a-half years ago.
So, I'm searching. And I'm open and free and available—not free, but I'm
available.
Do you think Britpop
filled the vacuum left by The Smiths?
Yes, well, I think that was because when The Smiths began, there really
wasn't independent or alternative music. I mean, independent was the English
word and alternative was the American word. Yes, it did exist, but it wasn't
in, as we say in England, high street shops. It wasn't in the high street
chains, and The Smiths brought it—they were the first independent group
to put music into places like Woolworth's and W. H. Smith and all the big,
boring conglomerates. But suddenly, in the late '80s, everybody tried to
be independent and alternative, and it just became such a terrible cliché.
Was there a pinnacle
moment with The Smiths?
Well, it was always a victory with The Smiths, although we were never accepted
by the American press—which was very, very difficult because we did extraordinarily
well considering what we came from and that we had zero finances behind
us. I mean, if anybody these days with no financial backing can do well,
it's an absolute miracle. I mean, it doesn't actually really happen anymore.
But with The Smiths, every day a small barrier was breaking down. And there
was extreme resistance to us in England because we were independent and
we were shabby and we were poor and we didn't play any game at all. But
the fact that we none the less won, it's incredible.
Did The Smiths change
the world?
I think we did completely. I think we changed lots of things because, if
you remember the start of the '80s, if you remember the accepted sound of
pop music, well, The Smiths were not a part of that. And The Smiths made
music which sounded very affordable to people. And I'm afraid, perhaps,
it was tied in with the whole punk ethic, you know—the boring expression
that everybody can do it. And I think that really did inspire lots of people
because at the time, everything was so overbearingly glittery, overbearingly
rich, and very conservative. The Smiths were a group and a sound and a look
and a meaning that had no ties to anything at all that had previously happened.
Can you make peace
with your former self?
I'd have no wish to meet that person. I'd be down the fire escape before
you could sound the alarm bells.
You can't say that.
I have. I just said it.
Will you and Johnny
Marr ever reconcile your differences?
Too much has happened, really, and, in actual truth, we don't actually like
each other.
What do you think
your role is today, because you really are like a figurehead and mean so
much to so many people?
You know, my position has never really changed. I mean, people talk about
The Smiths and the solo years, but they really have been the same in many
regards because I've never been accepted by the music industry. I've never
been a part of anything. I've never been invited to take part in VH1 or
MTV, which is extraordinary. I have had very significant minor achievements;
I still hold the record for selling out the Hollywood Bowl faster than anybody
else.
How do you like America?
I always found LA a little too bright.
That's the main reason why I like it. I like the brightness. I find it very
uplifting. Even though I don't go out and I don't mix with people—which
in LA is, believe me, a survival instinct.
What is the biggest
misconception about you?
That I'm unpleasant. I think people—there seems to be some small reputation
that goes around that I'm argumentative and strutting and violent. I'm the
most gentle person in the universe. So it's quite baffling. But, you know,
once those little reputations are passed around, they become the truth in
some ways.
This article was unceremoniously swiped from Morrissey-Solo.